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Hi all,

 

I have 5 A0 maps, all have several data frames and many layers on.

 

I need to PDF these to get them to a printing company, but am having a load of issues.

 

Firstly, in the past I seem to get better results (quality) from Print to PDF using Adobe PDF rather than Export to PDF.  Is that generally right?

 

So, I am trying to print to PDF but I am getting this error:

 

%%[ ProductName: Distiller ]%%

%%[ Error: limitcheck; OffendingCommand: eoclip ]%%

%%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%

%%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %%

 

I think this is because the maps are just to complicated.

 

So, I have reverted to try to export them.  However, on some of the data frames, the mapping is not the best quality, even when I set the quality controls to higher.  I have read that when layers in a data frame a rasterised, the whole of the dataframe including the map is also rasterised.  Is it very noticable the difference in quality on the PDF the quality of the base map between those data frames with layers on, and those without.

 

Anyway, in summary, ideally I would like to print to pdf, but if I have to export because there is no way around that error, how do I get the best results?

 

Yours in hope!

Thanks

Si

 

 



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When ArcMap and Printing Company are used in the same sentence, clouds start forming which soon turns a into storm with lightening and thunder.  It's a problem that has several solutions on a spectrum of your experience, willingness, and final print quality desired.  

 

On one end of the spectrum you will rebuild the map using design software (Adobe's Illustrator works well) so you can convert colors to CMYK and use a much richer design toolbox.  On the other end of the spectrum you should export your maps to a high resolution raster file and then convert to PDF, though you all have no control over the RGB to CMYK shifting and details like good typography and anti-aliasing will be sacrificed.

 

Cartography careers have been made on the process you are engaged in.  Good luck. 


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Is your printing company explicitly requesting PDFs? Typically they'd want either a high quality raster like Matthew suggested (usually a 600 dpi CMYK tif), or an EPS file. I don't know about 9.2 but current versions of ArcMap export direct to EPS.


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I'd like to hear from others who do a lot of print work, but it's been a long time since I was asked for anything other than a PDF.  I tend to consider EPS a deprecated format because of the problems that can arise with calls to fonts not resident locally.

 

For a big map like the OP mentions, I tend to export my raster stuff in one JPEG file, and my vector linework in another Illustrator file, and then put them together in InDesign and export the PDF from that.  Of course, I would do some tweaking (a lot of tweaking) to the Illustrator file to be sure colors are CMYK definitions, text blocks are complete, number of points isn't excessive, etc.  The frames Arc puts in both files makes registration of the two a snap, and InDesign writes good PDF code that printers are happy with.


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It's been a few years now, but at CSAA it was always an EPS export from InDesign. We published to our in-house printers as well as one or two outside printers I believe. All 1, 2 or 4 color offset from EPS. Our exports were always sent with a font library if I recall correctly. Or they had or font library on hand at all times.


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Thank you all for your replies.

 

I am still having a nightmare here trying to export the maps to PDF.

 

I have only ever really come across printers requesting PDFs unless they specifically asked for something in vector (I am a designer by trade so this comes up).

 

I am nervous about exporting the base as a JPG and my layers as vector and combining in indesign because the maps needs to be very accurate and checking them thoroughly would be a hell of a job as they are large and detailed all over.  Any mistakes could be quite costly as these are local plan maps for a government authority.

 

I appreciate the replies and any further help to get these things to PDF appreciated.

 

I have tried exporting to other formats just to test (.ai , .eps , .tiff) but all come back with issues (usually layers look very pixelated or not good enough quality.

 

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For clarification, PDF is a vector format, it just happens to be able to contain rasters as well.

 

If you export raster and vector layers separately from the same layout there is no issue with re combining them later. The frame extents are an exact match and once snapped to each other the map is in perfect alignment. There is more misalignment potential from the various plates in an offset printing machine.

 

If you are having issues with pixilation in your raster exports you may not have a high enough resolution set. What DPI are you exporting them as?

 

Have you confirmed with the printing company that they can't take EPS or AI formats?


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Please use different PDF printer like PDF Creator (Open Source). Try not to print in Best mode.



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I have 5 A0 maps, all have several data frames and many layers on.
I need to PDF these to get them to a printing company, but am having a load of issues.
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My very strong suggestion would be to get on to the current version of ArcMap - ArcGIS 10.2.2. Your 9.2 is many years old and technology has moved on. In particular, there was a significant change made in ArcGIS 10.2, restructuring the way that PDF export was done, that solves several long-standing issues, particular concerning masking between layers. I've been able to use PDF export in 10.2.2 to output complex maps that failed in various ways previously, and substantially faster in many cases.
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