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Daniel Huffman

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I recently had a potentially-fun* idea for a presentation that I could perhaps give at the next Practical Cartography Day: how to pronounce cartographic words and names. Given how few of us there are, and how much we rely on written communication, there are some words that we might see and type out and understand, but which we aren't 100% certain how to say aloud, because we rarely hear them spoken. As an example, I've heard "Mollweide" pronounced about four different ways over the years, and I'm still not 100% certain how to say Erwin Raisz's last name.

 

I'd like to enlist the help of all of you out there to build a little guide. What are some words/names that you're uncertain about? Can you help give the correct pronunciation for the ones that other people find troublesome?

 

If there's enough interest and material, I'll pull something together and put it online, and maybe pitch it as a presentation at the next Practical Cartography Day.

 

*this idea is described as "potentially-fun" because your definition of fun may differ greatly from mine



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Mollweide was german, you can find the pronunciation here:

 

http://de.forvo.com/word/mollweide/

 

(Although I would pronounce it with slightly different accent, it is basically correct).

 

I suspect the name Erwin Raisz is of german origin as well, in that case it would be pronounced like 'reis' at the bottom of this page:

 

http://de.forvo.com/word/reis/


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Speaking of projection pronunciation, I had trouble with Peirce until someone corrected me. Apparently his name is pronounced more like "purse," or at least that's how it sounds to my ear. And come to think of it, I'm not certain I know how to pronounce "quincuncial" either.



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For 'quincuncial' there is a pronunciation available here:

 

http://dictionary.re...wse/quincuncial


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Erwin Raisz was from Hungary. According to John Snyder' s Flattening the Earth: Two Thousand Years of Map Projections (1997) his name is pronounced:

 

 "raw' eess"

 

However, I usually hear it pronounced as "royce" as in Rolls Royce or "rice" or some slurred combination of the two.

 

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While you're at it, could you address "ver-tiss-ee", the singular of vertices?



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Twenty years ago I bought some prints of Raisz' work from one of his relatives. She pronounced it "Roits".  :)

 

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While you're at it, could you address "ver-tiss-ee", the singular of vertices?

 

Click on the little triangle to hear it:

http://dict.leo.org/...search=vertices


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However, I usually hear it pronounced as "royce" as in Rolls Royce or "rice" or some slurred combination of the two.

 

I've been saying "royce," after hearing someone else say that once and assuming that, since it sounded so much different than the spelling, it must be true.

 

Great stuff, everyone! Please do keep them coming.



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While you're at it, could you address "ver-tiss-ee", the singular of vertices?

To my knowledge, the singular of vertices is vertex (coming from latin, just the same as index - indices).

 

(To avoid confusion about the pronounciation you could also speak of anchor points...)


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Vertex - vertices for me as well.


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While you're at it, could you address "ver-tiss-ee", the singular of vertices?

 

Yeah, I was being sarcastic -- sorry, it didn't come across that way -- and I was asking that it be included in the list.  I hear "ver-tiss-ee" a lot, and although I prefer vertices I would settle for vertexes for plural so long as the singular was pronounced the way it was spelled! 



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Those of us in the U.S. routinely mispronounce Greenwich. Many people rail against a common mispronunciation of choropleth, but it's rather snobby to point out to newbies that they've got it wrong. I like to focus on the positives. As in, "hey, they know choropleth!"



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Those of us in the U.S. routinely mispronounce Greenwich.

 

"Grennich", right? There is a w in there but it's barely audible.


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Safe to say the w is completely silent.


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