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This is the first time I'm using Adobe Illustrator and I need your opinion about a map I made for a greek village named Syvota.
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A good start, but could use some polishing - I'll give you more detailed feedback, but first - could you please tell us what is the goal with this map - what are you trying to communicate, and to whom?
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It's a tourist map that will present the beaches of the village, the road network and some points of interest (like churches, schools, police station, post office etc). The map audience are tourists. Thank you for your help and sorry for my bad English.

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I think that this is pretty complex for a simple tourist map. I don't think they will know how to comprehend a stand alone DEM or hypsographic tint.

I just have to make the assumption that it is for just Greek tourists as there is no other language on the map.

I don't like how you show beaches, but no way of getting to them.

Think you could use some markers for cities/towns/villages.

I'm not a big fan of the rivers, they are very complex and don't need to be.

Hope that helps
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I agree with Kru, you need to simplify the design effects a bit and add more detail. The elevations would be better represented as a shaded relief or not at all. I like the river taper but not the stroke effects. Simplify those lines by making them a solid color and make sure the ends tuck under the shore lines so you can't see the line tip (eg, near ZaBia). I'd make the ocean ends thinner as well, making the taper less obvious. While you're at it you might try making the shore line boundary and rivers the same color blue. You could also apply more simplification to the river and road lines to smooth out some of the hard corners. I think your type looks good, but I don't like the brown effect beneath them. If you want them to stand off the map a bit a regular light shadow effect would work, or nothing at all. Definitely add more features and roads to fill in a bit, there have to be more geographic feature names you can add in the mountain region (some valley or ridge names?). Good first attempt though.

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I think that this is pretty complex for a simple tourist map. I don't think they will know how to comprehend a stand alone DEM or hypsographic tint.

I just have to make the assumption that it is for just Greek tourists as there is no other language on the map.

I don't like how you show beaches, but no way of getting to them.

Think you could use some markers for cities/towns/villages.

I'm not a big fan of the rivers, they are very complex and don't need to be.

Hope that helps
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razornole, thank you for your comments.
I think that DEM is self-explained. Do I have to include a hillshade?
The map is not only for greek tourists. So, what's the best option? To make a second version in English or to include secondary titles in English?
As fas as beaches are concerned , do you mean that the symbols are wrong?
There is only one way to reach the beaches, it's along coastline. There are no other ways/roads.
I also believe that rivers are overestimated for the purpose of the map.

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I can't read your legend, I don't know if it is in meter or kilometers (or something else), so maybe it is just a scale thing but it looks like your beach in the northwest corner doesn't have a road leading to it. Same could be said with you beach in the southeast corner. Again it might be a scale issue and maybe those beaches are only 250 meters from the road?

If it has confused me then chances are that it will confuse someone else.

I don't think that a stand alone DEM is self-explanatory (I can only speak for my experiences in dealing with the American tourist). A hillshade would go a long way to help clarify

Another language would help. English is usually a safe choice, but maybe a majority of your tourists come from the Eastern Europe or Germany in which case those would be better choices. I just know that not many people speak Greek as a second language.

Hope that helps,
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I agree with Kru, you need to simplify the design effects a bit and add more detail. The elevations would be better represented as a shaded relief or not at all. I like the river taper but not the stroke effects. Simplify those lines by making them a solid color and make sure the ends tuck under the shore lines so you can't see the line tip (eg, near ZaBia). I'd make the ocean ends thinner as well, making the taper less obvious. While you're at it you might try making the shore line boundary and rivers the same color blue. You could also apply more simplification to the river and road lines to smooth out some of the hard corners. I think your type looks good, but I don't like the brown effect beneath them. If you want them to stand off the map a bit a regular light shadow effect would work, or nothing at all. Definitely add more features and roads to fill in a bit, there have to be more geographic feature names you can add in the mountain region (some valley or ridge names?). Good first attempt though.

Because of my excitement of using for the first time adobe illustrator indeed I added some more design effects:) There are a lot of mistakes (as autodidact) and extra details, that's for sure. I didn't include many geographic names because it's a sample. Thank you for your critical comment!

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I can't read your legend, I don't know if it is in meter or kilometers (or something else), so maybe it is just a scale thing but it looks like your beach in the northwest corner doesn't have a road leading to it. Same could be said with you beach in the southeast corner. Again it might be a scale issue and maybe those beaches are only 250 meters from the road?

If it has confused me then chances are that it will confuse someone else.

I don't think that a stand alone DEM is self-explanatory (I can only speak for my experiences in dealing with the American tourist). A hillshade would go a long way to help clarify

Another language would help. English is usually a safe choice, but maybe a majority of your tourists come from the Eastern Europe or Germany in which case those would be better choices. I just know that not many people speak Greek as a second language.

Hope that helps,
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The scale is in metres but indeed some roads are missing. As far as language is concerned, most of the tourists are Greek, Italian and Germans. So I think the best option is to use English language (and maybe greek as second).

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Hello !

thank you for sharing your map.

I'm ok with the other comments.

And for me the symbol of your beaches looks like an umbrella, I don't like this symbol at all.

Good luck !

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Here is the new version of the map (with zoomify):

http://dl.dropbox.co.../SYVOTA-01.html

I forgot to insert the north arrow:)
I believe that I have made a progress in the project...

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It is looking better, needs more work to look finished. I think some labels needs to be tweaked.

I bet you will receive more feedback


Here is the new version of the map (with zoomify):

http://dl.dropbox.co.../SYVOTA-01.html

I forgot to insert the north arrow:)
I believe that I have made a progress in the project...






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