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Laura Miles

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Hey all, so happy to finally have a map to post for advice. This is an 8.5X11 map of neighborhood walking routes which will be used by elders in the community. Some of the requests were for larger fonts and that color-blindness be taken into consideration (that's why I used shapes to help identify the routes). I'd love to hear any advice on how to make things clearer and also any help with colors for the color-blind would be great, I used colorbrewer.org but it didn't really have many color combos for qualitative data. Also any comments to help things look more professional would be appreciated.
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Sorry for the disorganized and blunt nature of these notes, I’m at work and can’t really give it my full attention. Hope this helps!



Give inside matrix corner same radius as outside corners.

Push text on left down to close space at the end of the matrix (continued text is preferred over empty index space).

Increase contrast between K/O roads and city fill (darken city fill or case roads).

Adobe Illustrator has a color blind preview setting.

Consider a different font for body text (recommendations from forum?), current font is a little harsh looking.

See if you can tighten up the descriptive text. Reorganize and pull extraneous words (compare first sentence to “Route 1 is a 1km walk beginning at the Band Office heading North on Salish” also “continue on until Salish” versus “Continue to Salish”) Goal is clear and concise descriptive text.

Use same word forms consistently (e.g. always say North or South not Northwards followed by South).



The start & finish area is very busy with all of the routes converging along with the separate note boxes and their arrows. Organize the numbered symbols so that they are grouped together and on the corresponding start side of the band office and increase size of the start arrows to help identify which routes start in what direction. This should allow you to drop at least two of the note boxes, keeping only the finish notes with no arrow.



If this is not already in Illustrator consider moving it over (if feasible). You’ll get much sharper line work and have more control over the line styles, colors and alignment between line patterns.


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The description for route 2 mentions 'Musqueam Drive' which should be 'Musqueam Avenue'

I agree with David on the font for the body text. It doesn't seem to work well.
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I've got ancient eyes and I like the map. I'd like it even more were it larger. It is a map showing walking routes, do these need to be described in detail, in text, as well? Reducing the amount of text would allow you more space for the map, which in turn would allow you to define the routes with greater boldness.

Regarding the text, there are some left-right problems and problems with names (for example, in Route 2 "Go left at Musqueam Drive" should, I think, be "Go right at Musqueam Avenue").

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Make the walking routes solid lines. They sit within the white streets, and the dashes just make them hard to follow.

Make the descriptive text ragged right rather than justified. You have gaps in the text that you could drive a truck through.
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Thanks everyone, here is a new version with your comments taken into consideration.

David, no need to apologize, your comments are exactly what I was looking for. Unfortunately we don't have Illustrator here so it has to all be done in ArcGIS. I am hesitant to darken the city fill as I want to maintain enough distinction between it and parks/water for the color-blind, and hesitant to add casing as it may add confusion with the route lines. As I said we don't have Illustrator to check for color-blind preview. I think I read somewhere that if you can see things properly in grayscale it is likely decipherable by someone with color-blindness? Anyone know about this?

Nick, I added the text as I'm not that confident about the colors and symbols I've used being sufficient for color-blind users. I am considering removing it though for the reasons you pointed out. Will see what the boss thinks. I assume the left-right text problems are the justification which Dennis also mentioned. I hadn't yet edited the text properly and double-checked the route descriptions but will before the final version.

Any further suggestions? I changed the body font to Calibri, if anyone knows a more suitable font let me know.

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Much better text. Easier to read and looks more balanced. Adding the logo and note was a good way to help fill the empty space. In full color the routes are easy enought to distinguish, but the orange route does get a little lost in the simialrly colored city fill. Can you select a darker or more saturated orange?

I'd also look at the street type layouts. Many of the names could have extra space added between the name and suffix to cover more of the road. Just a few spaces can sometimes help legability. Also look at moving some of the labels out of areas with other features into empty space (Salish Dr along the golf course could be spaced to before and after the part of the course that touches the road).

You could pull Mali Av back a bit so that it's not riding over the route line.

And as a matter of personal taste, I'd reduce the size of the north arrow a bit.

Otherwise its looking good.

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The new font works a lot better.

The color for route #3 seems a bit too close to the built-up area color. I think that could use a bit more contrast.
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The text is legible. But I would consider beefing up the line weights for the routes. They're kind of thin for old eyes like mine. :P Also, the green and orange lines could very well be a problem for color blind map readers. Not too sure about the purple, magenta and blue either. I had a hard time following the organge and green routes myself. The symbols (star, hexagon, etc.) help some, but maybe they need to be a little more frequent? I wonder if you could incorporate that idea into the arrowheads along the lines...

I did a quick search and found this color blind simulator, where you point it to an image on your machine to see how it would look to people with various types of color-blindness. I just gave it a cursory glance, but it might be worth looking into. I've seen/heard of similar sites in the past.

A worthwhile map and a great start!
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I assume the left-right text problems are the justification which Dennis also mentioned.

Ah no, it's a left-right confusion, not a text justification issue (for once). I think that in Route 2 you go down Salish Drive and turn right at Musqueam Drive/Musqueam Avenue, rather than turn left.

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I assume the left-right text problems are the justification which Dennis also mentioned.

Ah no, it's a left-right confusion, not a text justification issue (for once). I think that in Route 2 you go down Salish Drive and turn right at Musqueam Drive/Musqueam Avenue, rather than turn left.

Regards, N.


Aaah, I see what you meant.

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Text is much better than that first draft! Much easier to read. That justified alignment wasn't working - too much space between words. Good revision there.

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Version 2 is is a great improvement, I think. However, a few points to mention.

Firstly, Route 5 goes from the Band Office to Kullahun Drive via Staulo Crescent and Musquem Drive. The text suggests that Salish Drive should be followed all of the way to Kullahun Drive. Read all of the text again very carefully.

Secondly, about the font. This is just a personal view but "elders", querulous wrinklies like me, tend to the conservative when it comes to such things and might find a more traditional serif font preferable.

Thirdly, for me, you could do away with almost all of the block text, increase the size of the map yet again and make the routes really bold. Be bold, be bold - but not too bold.

Regards, N.
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Dave, that site is exactly what I've been looking for, thanks!

Nick, I like the idea about the serif font but the boss will never go for it, she hates serif font. I talked with her about removing the body text but she thinks it is necessary to have the route descriptions. I am also hoping to rely on the fact that all users of the map live here in the community and are familiar with these roads.

Unfortunately, the map has to be designed not only to what I think older folks might understand and appreciate, but first and foremost to my boss's likes and dislikes!

I'll post a final version when it is finished, thanks everybody for your expert opinions.

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I did a quick search and found this color blind simulator, where you point it to an image on your machine to see how it would look to people with various types of color-blindness. I just gave it a cursory glance, but it might be worth looking into. I've seen/heard of similar sites in the past.


One that I use frequently, that I feel works really well is ColorOracle.. Like Dave mentioned, there are several out there - but ColorOracle was made by a cartographer!

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