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Hello Cartotalk.

I am new to cartography even though my job title is 'Cartographer/GIS Technician'. ;) I help maintain the taxlot maps for the assessor's office here at Marion County. We use ArcInfo and are in the process of converting over to ArcGIS. As the sign on our office door says, “Beware of Cadastrophy”.

I'm very impressed with this website and have already learned a lot of valuable information. I'm in the early stages of my first 'contract' work, doing a recreation map of the Mt Hood area. I'm very excited to be using the creative side of my brain after working within the cut-and dry world of cadastral mapping.

I’ve read with interest some of the GIS v. Cartography threads here. There are significant differences between the two worlds to be sure (as vast as the difference between Arc and Illustrator), but I’m not sure what’s to be gained by focusing on these differences…me thinks the power lies in being good at both and that’s what I’m striving for.

Cheers,

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Hey, my folks live in St. Paul. I'm also a "Cartographer/GIS Technician", the GIS side spent in a local city IT department.

I think you'll find that even in the Cart vs GIS discussions we have around here that the common point of view is inclusive of GIS, as opposed to dismissive of it. In that light looking at the differences helps define best practices for each while finding ways to apply the strengths of each discipline to the other.

Welcome, and please post your Mt Hood project as it progresses.

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Hey Adam, it's good to have another Oregonian on board. There are quite a few of us on this site and at the NACIS meetings. Feel free to contact me if/when you run into issues on the Mt. Hood map. That's quite a leap from cadastral to rec mapping. Here at the BLM they put us cartographers (there are 3 of us) in a branch with the cadastral/survey group (at one time it made sense, maybe 50 years ago), so I know how big a change that is. Our group does the production on the BLM/FS/NPS/USF&W Pacific Northwest Recreation Map Series, in addition to mapping for planning documents, congressional proposals for wilderness and wild and scenic rivers, etc. etc.
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Oregon State Office
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Thanks, and yes Paul, the topo map of the Mt Hood area is a big and welcome change from mapping taxlots! Actually, you would probably be the person to ask: Do you know where I can find boundary data for the new wilderness areas added to the Mt Hood NF last year? (see attached)

I've worked with the state BLM office in Santa Fe in a previous job, and they also had the cartographic dept lumped in with the surveyors. Here in Marion Co. the surveyors are in a completely different building. I actually wish we had better access to them as as we are always in need of better control for our data.

David, did you grow up in St Paul? Feel free to pass along my name if your parents have any questions about their property. We've had a lot of questions this year regarding undeveloped roads and street vacations from that community.

Cheers,

Adam Crateau
acrateau@co.marion.or.us

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Hey, my folks live in St. Paul. I'm also a "Cartographer/GIS Technician", the GIS side spent in a local city IT department.

I think you'll find that even in the Cart vs GIS discussions we have around here that the common point of view is inclusive of GIS, as opposed to dismissive of it. In that light looking at the differences helps define best practices for each while finding ways to apply the strengths of each discipline to the other.

Welcome, and please post your Mt Hood project as it progresses.

David

hey ya'll - iwas born up there, in the great suburb of Golden Valley, more Minneapolis than St. Paul, but oh well.
we should start a six-degrees of separation thing going for CT >>
see though? i'm not as big of a red-neck as you all think B)
i did just say ya'll though didn't i? damn..i mean dern




map is looking good adam, you'll get lots of critque in the map gellery if you post it there (and want it)
Oregon rocks! ~~ welcome to the forum

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hey ya'll - iwas born up there, in the great suburb of Golden Valley, more Minneapolis than St. Paul, but oh well.
we should start a six-degrees of separation thing going for CT >>
see though? i'm not as big of a red-neck as you all think B)
i did just say ya'll though didn't i? damn..i mean dern

map is looking good adam, you'll get lots of critque in the map gellery if you post it there (and want it)
Oregon rocks! ~~ welcome to the forum


Thanks. Oregon is pretty nice - but don't tell anyone that ;) I think David was referring to St Paul, OR: Google Map

I'll definitely post my map to the gallery when I get it finished - obviously I have a loooong way to go, but I'm looking forward to some feedback from people here.

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Adam,
We did the mapping for Rep. Blumenauer's and then-Sen. Smith's wilderness proposals- not sure how they finally settled on the Mt. Hood wilderness boundaries, but I'm sure I can find out. I'll check it out when I'm back at work Monday and let you know.
Also, I recently posted our rec standards, which might be of some help on your latest project:
http://www.cartotalk...?showtopic=5445
There's probably a better place to put that- we update it frequently (just added ferry line symbology- never needed it until our Olympic Peninsula- San Juan Islands map). Does anybody have any ideas on that? I could periodically upload a new pdf.
Paul
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Oregon State Office
Portland, Oregon
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