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dear all, as the title says, i hoped i could do it all with arcmap, but i'll probably move to AI at a stage of my project.
i'm doing a 1:25k hiking map, it has to look a bit like a kompass map in the end (see this sample: http://www.astro.phy....Hiking/map.jpg).
i can go near to my idea in arcgis, but transparencies and labeling are a pain in my poor old arse, which leads me to the decision of exporting the work to adobe illustrator at a later stage.
the problem is: i have never used adobe illustrator, and i can find no cartography-specific tutorials all over the internet.
so i am looking for some online tutorials or books that deal with transparencies, labeling, multiple layers, road symbols in adobe illustrator, and also something explaining how to export from arcmap to AI (one layer at a time? all layers at once? in which format? etc...).
any suggestions welcome... thank you

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I'd recommend picking up a general tutorial on Illustrator to get the hang of it. It's a totally different experience from Arc.

Regarding getting your data into Illustrator, there's a tool called MAPublisher which will allow you to import GIS data (shapefiles, geodatabases and so on) into Illustrator and work at scale and with attributes in Illustrator. Highly recommended.

As far as I know there's no dedicated tutorials for cartography in Illustrator online, but you can always ask your questions here. Also, I've been doing a 'Digital Cartography in Illustrator and MAPublisher' training course for 2 years now (taught in Dutch in The Netherlands though) and I've also done a set of training videos for MAPublisher. I've noticed several times that people use either of these as a way to start migrating from Arc to Illustrator/MAPublisher for map production.
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There are good videos on Lynda.com. If you don't really see learning Illy as something valuable for yourself you can also contract out the work (if you have the budget for it).
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Don't worry, Illy doesn't bite... :)
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The Adobe Classroom in a Book series is a great place to start learning Illustrator.



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http://www.sonic.net...ool-exercise.ai

the link above downloads an Illustrator pen tool tutorial as an AI document. Once you have AI, open this file and follow the instructions... its good practice for basic drawing in Illy.

Other than that I'd suggest taking an Adobe class online or at a local JC. There's not much specific to say about cartography in Illy, the principles are more or less the same regardless of platform... learning Illustrator for cartography just means learning illustrator. Good luck, and do post questions here as this is the best place for tips and tricks on using Illy for map design.

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thank you all for your advices, and for offering your help in my future troubles with illustrator.
i know about MAPublisher, but i'd like to make only some minor finishing on AI, most of the job will be done in arcmap, so i was planning to have the work *almost* done in arcmap, then export to AI level-by-level (or even level-attribute-by-level attribute!) and make some finishing such as text halos, transparencies or road intersections.
then i'll have the maps cropped, add cover, legend and things and export in some typography-friendly format.
i hope this won't be so difficult, even if my first encounters with AI have been quite frustrating...

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For the purely technical mind graphic design devices can be as frustrating as a purely graphically mind learning ArcGIS, & even more so hard coding. What you have to do is pull up your socks, drink a cup of coffee, & research the components that you have to learn. Pretend your back in your college classroom drooling over the girl next to you :lol: & you will be fine. At the end of the day you will take the satisfaction of accomplishment. Here's one key lesson to learn: if you learned CorelDraw then simply tap into that state of mind & adapt to the changing environement. That will help quite a bit.

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