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Has anyone tried FiberStone stone paper as an alternative to synthetic papers such as polyart and hop syn? Stone paper is waterproof, grease-proof, tear resistant and eco-friendly. Stone paper also carries a lower cost than synthetic papers and is perfect for map making and guidebooks I think.

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Has anyone tried FiberStone stone paper as an alternative to synthetic papers such as polyart and hop syn? Stone paper is waterproof, grease-proof, tear resistant and eco-friendly. Stone paper also carries a lower cost than synthetic papers and is perfect for map making and guidebooks I think.


Are you, by any chance, associated with Fiberstone?
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Has anyone tried FiberStone stone paper as an alternative to synthetic papers such as polyart and hop syn? Stone paper is waterproof, grease-proof, tear resistant and eco-friendly. Stone paper also carries a lower cost than synthetic papers and is perfect for map making and guidebooks I think.


I was hoping for more technical information, not just marketing crap.
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Has anyone tried FiberStone stone paper as an alternative to synthetic papers such as polyart and hop syn? Stone paper is waterproof, grease-proof, tear resistant and eco-friendly. Stone paper also carries a lower cost than synthetic papers and is perfect for map making and guidebooks I think.


Are you, by any chance, associated with Fiberstone?

Forgive me Hans, I do print labels on FiberStone®. But it doesn't change the fact that it's a phenomenal paper for mapmaking, and it is much greener than the synthetics.

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Forgive me Hans, I do print labels on FiberStone®. But it doesn't change the fact that it's a phenomenal paper for mapmaking, and it is much greener than the synthetics.


"Yes" would have been much simpler.

We do not really have a problem over here with people representing businesses or promiting a product or service. Press releases can be posted in the relevant section (where you initially put this, but since you formulated it as a question I moved it here) and if you have something to add to existing discussions, you are more than welcome to do so.

However, it would be highly appreciated if you would make it clear you have a relationship other than "enthusiastic user" with the product.
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Forgive me Hans, I do print labels on FiberStone®. But it doesn't change the fact that it's a phenomenal paper for mapmaking, and it is much greener than the synthetics.


"Yes" would have been much simpler.

We do not really have a problem over here with people representing businesses or promiting a product or service. Press releases can be posted in the relevant section (where you initially put this, but since you formulated it as a question I moved it here) and if you have something to add to existing discussions, you are more than welcome to do so.

However, it would be highly appreciated if you would make it clear you have a relationship other than "enthusiastic user" with the product.


Thank you Hans, no problem.

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And of course we're all dying to hear why FiberStone is a good alternative for maps. I take it it's waterproof and tear-resistant? Can it be folded easily?
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And of course we're all dying to hear why FiberStone is a good alternative for maps. I take it it's waterproof and tear-resistant? Can it be folded easily?

Yes, FiberStone® folds very well and it is waterproof without the need for lamination. It is tree-free and recycles well with both papers and plastics. www.naturalsourceprinting.com

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And of course we're all dying to hear why FiberStone is a good alternative for maps. I take it it's waterproof and tear-resistant? Can it be folded easily?


How does the ink hold up to being folded and also how would a map hold up to outdoor use over time when the paper is photodegradable. no more leaving your maps on the dash Posted Image
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And of course we're all dying to hear why FiberStone is a good alternative for maps. I take it it's waterproof and tear-resistant? Can it be folded easily?


How does the ink hold up to being folded and also how would a map hold up to outdoor use over time when the paper is photodegradable. no more leaving your maps on the dash Posted Image

The photodegradable part is debatable. In direct sunlight day in and day out over a very long period it may start to break down but not on your dash. Your paper maps will degrade just the same unless they have toxic vinyl (PVC) laminates in which case the sunlight is breaking down the PVC and it is releasing toxic chemicals into your car for you to breathe.

The ink holds up quite well to folding. Ask the Port of Long Beach who used FiberStone® for a gorgeous trifold brochure. They love FiberStone® (google FiberStone and "port of long beach".

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Hop-Syn synthetic paper is as green as Fiberstone and the claim to be “much greener” needs to be better substantiated. Hop-Syn synthetic paper also has a calcium carbonate and non-toxic resin construction. In the case of Hop-Syn synthetic paper, the non-toxic resin is a mixture of PP and PE.

The real issue here is the folderability and scoring effect.
Even though I am from Hop Industries, I won't even comment if our Hop Syn is better on folderability, because we are currently testing stone paper too and learning from everyone here. We already tested stone paper's ec0-friendliness; but, I can assure everyone, it is not "greener" than our Hop Syn.

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How do the colors look on each of the two papers? I also wonder about fading in the heat and sun. While biodegradable is a good thing, it's not if the map is going to disintegrate from getting wet or from too much sun or heat.




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